# Can music talk about music?

**Can music talk about itself?**

Canons and fugues fold a melody back on itself, and Hofstadter drew the line from there to Gödel’s self-reference. Whether that is more than a pleasing likeness is the question.

Connects to:
- [Hofstadter](https://mapideas.org/i/c_hof)
- [Notation](https://mapideas.org/i/mu_notation)
- [closed loops](https://mapideas.org/i/tr_loops)

Sources:
- Hofstadter, D. (1979). Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid. Basic Books.

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