# Hofstadter

**Hofstadter’s opposite reading: the loop is the self**

Hofstadter (Gödel, Escher, Bach and I Am a Strange Loop) says self-reference is where a self comes from, so the loop is the feature and no limit.

Connects to:
- [Gödel’s view](https://mapideas.org/i/c_disj)
- [mind contradicts](https://mapideas.org/i/c_contra)
- [closed loops](https://mapideas.org/i/tr_loops)
- [Hofstadter](https://mapideas.org/i/b_hof)

Sources:
- Hofstadter, D. (1979). Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid. Basic Books.
- Hofstadter, D. (2007). I Am a Strange Loop. Basic Books.

Source: https://mapideas.org/i/c_hof · open on the map: https://mapideas.org/#c_hof