# Lucas, Penrose

**J. R. Lucas (1961) and Roger Penrose (1989, 1994)**

The argument that minds outrun machines: “Minds, Machines and Gödel”, The Emperor’s New Mind, Shadows of the Mind.

Connects to:
- [Hofstadter](https://mapideas.org/i/b_hof)
- [the replies](https://mapideas.org/i/b_rep)
- [Lucas, Penrose](https://mapideas.org/i/c_lucas)

Sources:
- [Wikipedia: Penrose–Lucas argument](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose%E2%80%93Lucas_argument)
- Lucas, J. R. (1961). Minds, Machines and Gödel. Philosophy 36(137), 112–127.
- Penrose, R. (1989). The Emperor’s New Mind. Oxford University Press.
- Penrose, R. (1994). Shadows of the Mind. Oxford University Press.

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